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Rare · Post by **Rare** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:15 pm

gruntking wrote:

yes its not an ideal casting rod to heavy

Yep....

Make it a sitting rod. K, I will bring at the clean-up this Sunday.

gruntking · Post by **gruntking** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:38 pm

ive seen the rod i know it well use to own one its not an ideal casting rod to damn heavy

i dont really sell rods i own but i sure as hell did sell that one

Rare · Post by **Rare** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:59 pm

Again, k...this is not a casting rod. Look at others as we said. Do whatever you wish with this one

permitchaser · Post by **permitchaser** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:14 pm

Its not a casting rod ...but around pillons i rather have a KC on my hands ,very nice of you Nilson but i tho you were gonna give it to me ,Jon like to spend money and double check things

jk

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:06 pm

Is it 7.2" ?
http://www.mudhole.com/KC50-86

Rare · Post by **Rare** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:35 pm

Yes, 7'2. Talk to the guys to show you how to get it to what length you want it.

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:08 am

I am thinking of three blanks below for three sticks...

Two Gators:
MH GATOR T90XH Bottom Rod Rod Blank: 9.0', 20-50LB, moderate, 14tip(5.6mm)/0.95butt,14.6oz
MH GATOR KC50-86 IGFA Regulation Rod Blank: 7'2", 50LB, moderate, 18tip(7mm)/1.02butt, 13.4oz
KC-50-86 will be extended to around 9.0"

One Calstar:
Calstar E-Glass Rod Blank 550-B : 9.0', 20-80LB, 10tip(4mm)/1.04butt, 19.33oz

Calstar is heaviest...

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:50 am

THX PB

I plan to get all three as I am gonna build three rods for this time so I will need three blanks...using $1 twisted wire SS guides.

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:26 pm

I found these guides on ebay... I think these are better than snake guides.

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kblue · Post by **kblue** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:18 pm

THX... I don't want to build a rod to replace guide in 2-3 years...

What about this guide, non-fouling twister guides?

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gruntking · Post by **gruntking** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:23 pm

kblue wrote:I am thinking of three blanks below for three sticks...

Two Gators:
MH GATOR T90XH Bottom Rod Rod Blank: 9.0', 20-50LB, moderate, 14tip(5.6mm)/0.95butt,14.6oz
MH GATOR KC50-86 IGFA Regulation Rod Blank: 7'2", 50LB, moderate, 18tip(7mm)/1.02butt, 13.4oz
KC-50-86 will be extended to around 9.0"

One Calstar:
Calstar E-Glass Rod Blank 550-B : 9.0', 20-80LB, 10tip(4mm)/1.04butt, 19.33oz

Calstar is heaviest...

So you are going to ruin that rod by trying to extend it 2 ft

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:37 pm

yeah...that is a plan for now...lol
Is there anything you want to say???

Rare · Post by **Rare** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:12 pm

K, I will bring the 2 KC rods i have so you can understand what we mean when we say heavy. Again this is not a good option for casting-

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:26 am

That will help...
What time do you plan to be there?
I will be there 8:00 and have to leave 10:30.

STRIZ · Post by **STRIZ** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:18 am

When I extended rares rod to 9'2" the extension was by 2' but you have to consider what you need for overlapping. In other words how many inch you want to stick lmao.

Then consider all the epoxy to get it nice and tight. Then you might have to build up a little where the insert meets the blank so you get a smooth under for the rear grip.

All that will basically add half the weight of a blank to it,

Sure rare rod can handle a whole lot cuz it is just like a towing bar but casting is a bit(h.

Extending has to be done right. I used a whole foot for the overlap. In other words the extension piece was 3' for a 2' extension.

Rammed a whole foot but it sure is tight.

God I love these extension threads. So nasty lmao

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:00 pm

THX STRIZ... I am sure Germany can be so cold now...lol

What material was the 3' extension piece made of?
I am thinking some sort of carbon-fiber tube...

BTW, the rod I am building from KC blank won't be a casting rod...but perhaps one of bridge sticks that may toss crab into pylons. I want to handle 1 LB weight and bait toward opposite current. At last trip, Rare taught me how to fight big fish under CH2 bridge toward drive bridge ...I concluded none of my 8 - 11 ft rods has enough backbone... I sort of read why Rare is proposing this blank...

Two other blanks will be for casting. I am waiting for answer from Calstar.

STRIZ · Post by **STRIZ** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:13 pm

I did it the most easy way. I used another KC 5086

You can also use any other fiber blank. Could be a banged up rod that if the right diameter can be used.

I would just use the same material.
Some use wooden dowels but thats bs imo

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:56 pm

I have a few banged-up rods...

BTW, what guide arrangement do your recommend for casting rod using those two other blanks?
Available guide sizes from Mudhole are 20,18,15,13,11,9,7,and 6.

permitchaser · Post by **permitchaser** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:58 pm

I will go with the foul proof guides

gruntking · Post by **gruntking** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:07 pm

Dude save the money on the builds and just go buy a couple pier rats ten ft is going to cost you around 180 each ask the tides are green he bought 2 of them

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:47 am

Hey man... at the end of day, building my own rod for my own fishing is all about having a fun...
BTW, the material cost of the rod i am building will be much cheaper than $180...

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:47 am

permitchaser wrote:I will go with the foul proof guides

Yes Sir... that is the plan...

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:56 am

kblue wrote: BTW, what guide arrangement do your recommend for casting rod ?
Available guide sizes from Mudhole are 20,18,15,13,11,9,7,and 6.

Question I have is do I need bigger guides on tip sides for casting rod than for bottom fish rod?
For bottom-fishing boat rod, I used ...8, 8, 8 and top. But 8 maybe too small for cast...
So for casting rod, I am thinking 20, 20, 18, 15, 13, 11, 11, 9 and top for casting rod in order to minimize line friction during cast.

permitchaser · Post by **permitchaser** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:40 pm

How big will be the blank?

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:48 pm

permitchaser · Post by **permitchaser** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:15 pm

You are going to need 8 or 9 guides ,if i were you i will put 1 #20 and 2 #9 ,google {{{guide spacing chart}}} so you can get them on the right places...

kblue · Post by **kblue** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:08 pm

OK, here is my current plan for KC blank rare gave me.

I have a tip-broken penn power stick (I had 20 years but never liked it much).
I want to use this penn stick as extender for KC.

KC and broken penn.JPG

I think I can cut last 3' of penn stick and insert a foot to inside of KC...
I am thinking of wrapping fiber tape around penn so that it makes a good contact when epoxy is applied...
This will extend the blank.

I install reel seat on the end of KC to minimize pressure to penn stick..
Reel seat will be 2' from butt.

I will have to clean up penn stick by removing eva form and locking cap and nut parts of reel seat so I can insert new eva form,
and I will also have to cut out butt cap and install new one.

permitchaser · Post by **permitchaser** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:47 pm

thats a lot of work, i rather get a piece of a clean blank ..solid if possible ,make sure blank you insert not too loose if it is you nee to do arbors like when u install d reel seat.. you live up north T n R may have it.. i forgot the guys name he is nice ,not the old man hes a pain in the arse avoid that one.

permitchaser · Post by **permitchaser** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:08 pm

yup PB Jeff dude its COOL he show me how to cut foam with a piece of power pro

pick his brains KB dont over do it tho

fishnfool73 · Post by **fishnfool73** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:53 pm

PaulieBoy wrote:Jeff is the guy at T & R you need to talk to, tell him exactly what you want to do and this is the most important part....LISTEN TO EVERYTHING HE TELLS YOU!!! He knows his stuff when it comes to modifying blanks, many years ago he built a calstar shark blank (extended butt) for me..I fished locked down drag on some crazy beast including a 400+ Goliath grouper that I yanked off the bottom in the tortugas on a boatless forum trip and that rod lasted thru EVERYTHING! So ask away and take notes....but be ready he does not sugar coat his answers lol.

That rod and fish are impressive

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