Bush Record Of Illegalities Suggests Possible Role In 9/11

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Do you think the government had anything at all to do with 9/11

Yes, I think the gov. had it's hand in 9/11.
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No, I don't think the gov. had anything to do with 9/11
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Not sure, but I think it's a possibility.
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Bush Record Of Illegalities Suggests Possible Role In 9/11

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Bush Record Of Illegalities Suggests Possible Role In 9/11 WTC, Pentagon Strikes

Sherwood Ross
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Wednesday, March 7, 2007

The trouble with thinking 9/11 was an inside job staged by George W. Bush & Co. is that it defies belief any U.S. president might be capable of such an iniquitous crime against his own people.

Yet, subsequent Bush actions, such as lying the nation into war against Iraq, makes one wonder if the man didn’t create the 9/11 massacres to justify his attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran.

After all, his record reveals him to be a serial liar, warmonger, tyrant, torturer, and usurper of his peoples’ civil liberties. Just off the top, here are some illegal GWB actions that betray what he is really about.

# Bush lied the U.S. into what former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan called an “illegal” war on Iraq. This conflict has killed 650,000 civilians, wounded over a million more, drove nearly 2-million from their country, and turned life into a living hell for the rest. The death toll there is already equal to about 240 WTC massacres, yet Bush persists in waging the war.

# Bush okayed $1.5-trillion for new weapons' research including grisly weapons that would thrill mad scientists, such as sound waves that crush a victim's internal organs. Another gem is "rods from god" to hurl tungsten poles down from Earth orbit down upon its victims at 7,200 miles an hour, striking with the atomic fury. He is illegally militarizing space. These are not the dreams of a humanist.

# Bush has allowed illegal radioactive ammunition fired in Afghanistan and Iraq that poison civilian populations and U.S. troops, as well as cluster bombs. Does this evince concern for human life?

# Bush has made himself master of the greatest spy apparatus the world has ever known at a cost to taxpayers of $50-billion annually. He authorized NSA to spy illegally on Americans, allegedly to catch terrorists. If this was the true reason, why did he also eavesdrop on UN officials?

# Bush authorized CIA agents to go to foreign countries to kidnap "suspects" and dump them in distant prisons to be tortured with no warrants signed to seize them, no charges brought against them, and no lawyers to defend them. In his secret prisons there may be many thousands held illegally, and tortured, while all the time he lies to the world "we don't torture." Is this a man with empathy for others?

# Bush is also funding hundreds of biotechnology labs to create deadly strains of exotic killer diseases at a cost to taxpayers of $40-billion. Many operate in secret, illegally violating transparency rules. On Bush’s watch, anthrax germs from a military laboratory in Fort Detrick, Md., were mysteriously unleashed upon two of his political opponents in the U.S. Senate that killed five people and sickened 17 others and temporarily shut down the Congress.

Peculiarly, the perpetrators of the anthrax panic and the massacres at the WTC and Pentagon have not been caught. “Why not?” Is it just possible the White House doesn’t want the killers apprehended?

For all these, and many other reasons, it’s worth hearing out the arguments of those who claim the 9/11 events were staged by the White House to rush a frightened nation into war.

In the March/April issue of "Tikkun", a bimonthly "Jewish Critique of of Politics, Culture & Society," author Dr. David Ray Griffin asserts the Administration never proved the 9/11 attacks were made by Osama bin Laden. Griffin, a professor of philosophy and theology at Claremont Graduate College, Calif., and author of “The New Pearl Harbor”(Olive Branch Press) writes the FBI has “no hard evidence” of his culpability.

Griffin asks why WTC building 7, not struck by an airplane, collapsed upon itself in the same manner as buildings 1 and 2, why no steel remained standing? And he notes steel does not melt until it reaches 2800 degrees F. and the jet fuel used by the airliners that hit WTC burned at only 1700 F.

Collapse of the three towers, he said, “manifested many standard features of the kind of controlled demolition known as implosion, such as: sudden onset; straight-down collapse; collapse at virtually free-fall speed, indicating the lower floors were offering no resistance; total collapse, indicating that the massive steel columns in the core of each building had been broken into many pieces; the production of molten metal, and the concurrence of multiple explosions.”

“Dozens of people, including journalists, police officers, WTC employees, emergency medical workers, and fire-fighters reported hearing explosions in the Twin Towers,” Griffin writes. One fire captain said he heard a series of explosions from the top floor down, one after another, “boom, boom, boom.” And a paramedic described them as akin to a “professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear ‘Pop, pop, pop, pop.”

“Complete collapses of steel-frame high-rise buildings have never been brought about by fire plus externally caused structural damage,” Griffin tells “Tikkun” readers. “Such collapses have only been caused by explosives used in controlled demolitions.”

If you wonder how saboteurs might plant explosives in the three WTC towers without being detected, Griffin notes on Web site “9.11 Truth” President Bush’s brother Marvin and his cousin Wirt Walker III “were both principals in the company in charge of security for WTC.” The firm, Securacom, was also responsible for electronic security at United Airlines, whose flights struck WTC.

Among Griffin’s charges, the most startling may be that Osama bin Laden, who was already one of America’s “most wanted” criminals, was treated in July, 2001 --- two months before 9/11 --- in the American Hospital in Dubai, and visited by the local CIA agent.

Does this explain why bin Laden was not caught and likely never will be caught? Is it possible this “renegade” from a prominent Saudi Arabian family having long ties to President Bush Sr. is in fact a fall guy whose alleged crimes gave Bush an excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq?

Congress needs to conduct a real investigation of 9/11. It may not only uncover ample grounds for impeachment but for criminal prosecution. Given GWB’s track record for criminal activity, treason cannot be ruled out.

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sorry this argument is stupid yeah Bush is a jerk so what?

Here's what happened on 9/11: A bunch of crazies hijacked some planes and crashed them into some chit like the pentagon and twin towers. a bunch of people got killed. End of story

i like conspiracy theories too but sorry dems our 'evil' president didn't have nothin to do with this one

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when you stir stuff it starts to stink, and all this kinda stuff is good for is causing a stink

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bassZooKa wrote:sorry this argument is stupid yeah Bush is a jerk so what?

Here's what happened on 9/11: A bunch of crazies hijacked some planes and crashed them into some chit like the pentagon and twin towers. a bunch of people got killed. End of story

i like conspiracy theories too but sorry dems our 'evil' president didn't have nothin to do with this one
What happened to Building 7? It was never touched. It was also built to be entirely fire proof. In other words fire would not be able to drop this building, but it collapses by fire on its own footprint? Did you know a steel frame building had never collapsed due to fire until that day. Not one, but three buildings.

There's a video called Terror Storm on my web page that is a documentary done by Alex Jones on all the false flag actions by governments throughout the ages. It's almost 2 hours long, but it's very interesting. I never thought in my wildest dreams that the government would intentionally murder it's own people until I started researching this.

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thank you rijkaard, fishing is a lot better than this crap whether it is true or not, still nothing you can do about it but fish!!

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Rijkaard - it's real easy to live life with your head in the sand to what's going on around you. We are slowly losing our constitutional rights one by one. Did you know you and any other U.S. citizen can be named an enemy combatant for no reason whatsoever. Being named this takes away all your rights. No lawyer, no call to family to let them know where you are, and best of all they can hold you for as long as they like.

I'm not trying to change anyones mind at all. I'm just trying to broaden the horizons of those who have no idea what is going on. You don't hear about these things in the mainstream media. That's why I have started posting these off topic stories in here. Most people will start to read them and then blow them off and think i'm nuts. That's exactly what you're programmed to do. Believe everything the government says and as Bush says if your not with us then your against us. There's no inbetween in his eyes.

"That we are to stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Theodore Roosevelt

More and more people are coming to the realization that the government had a hand in 9/11. See the polls below.
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Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11
POSTED: 9:31 p.m. EDT, September 11, 2006
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington has risen from almost a third to almost half over the past four years, a CNN poll released Monday found.

Asked whether they blame the Bush administration for the attacks, 45 percent said either a "great deal" or a "moderate amount," up from 32 percent in a June 2002 CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

But the Clinton administration did not get off lightly either. The latest poll, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation for CNN, found that 41 percent of respondents blamed his administration a "great deal" or a "moderate amount" for the attacks. (Read the complete poll results -- PDF)

That's only slightly less than the 45 percent who blamed his administration in a poll carried out less than a week after the attacks.

Still, most Americans appear to be fatalistic, with more than half -- 57 percent -- saying they think that terrorists will "always find a way to launch attacks no matter what the U.S. government does."

The poll was carried out August 30 through September 2 by Opinion Research Corp. with 1,004 American adults questioned by telephone. The sampling error for the questions was 3 percentage points.

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Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
Americans Question Bush on 9/11 Intelligence
October 14, 2006

- Many adults in the United States believe the current federal government has not been completely forthcoming on the issue of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, according to a poll by the New York Times and CBS News. 53 per cent of respondents think the Bush administration is hiding something, and 28 per cent believe it is lying.

Only 16 per cent of respondents say the government headed by U.S. president George W. Bush is telling the truth on what it knew prior to the terrorist attacks, down five points since May 2002.

Al-Qaeda operatives hijacked and crashed four airplanes in the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001, killing nearly 3,000 people. In October, after Afghanistan’s Taliban regime refused to hand over al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, the U.S. launched the war on terrorism.

On Aug. 6, 2001, a Presidential Daily Briefing titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." mentioned "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."

On May 17, 2002, Bush discussed the situation, saying, "The American people know this about me, and my national security team, and my administration: Had I known that the enemy was going to use airplanes to kill on that fateful morning, I would have done everything in my power to protect the American people."

On Sept. 11, Bush referred to the attacks, saying, "Five years after 9/11, our enemies have not succeeded in launching another attack on our soil, but they’ve not been idle. Al-Qaeda and those inspired by its hateful ideology have carried out terrorist attacks in more than two dozen nations. And just last month, they were foiled in a plot to blow up passenger planes headed for the United States. They remain determined to attack America and kill our citizens—and we are determined to stop them."

Polling Data

When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Oct. 2006
May 2002

Telling the truth
16%
21%

Hiding something
53%
65%

Mostly lying
28%
8%

Not sure
3%
6%

Source: The New York Times / CBS News
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 983 American adults, conducted from Oct. 5 to Oct. 8, 2006. Margin of error is 4 per cent.
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AFA 9-11 is concerned I don't believe the story we have been told....too many holes.

Bush is pathetic.

We have been steadily losing our rights for decades. More so, since 9-11-2001.



I would not vote for Hillary. Two family's in the whitehouse for 32-36 years bothers me. Just look at little Bush! Him and daddy have spent a combined 24 years there when done. We should not give these family's the power they have. We need fresh blood and preferably an independent.
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Hey it doesn't matter if your for or against this stuff, SEE HOW I SAID IT JUST STARTS TO STINK, I think this stuff has got to stop. People are arguing and smarting off already, there is no way you can bring up topics liek this without causing hard feelings therefore it is a BAD IDEA!

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jad1097 wrote:AFA 9-11 is concerned I don't believe the story we have been told....too many holes.

Bush is pathetic.

We have been steadily losing our rights for decades. More so, since 9-11-2001.



I would not vote for Hillary. Two family's in the whitehouse for 32-36 years bothers me. Just look at little Bush! Him and daddy have spent a combined 24 years there when done. We should not give these family's the power they have. We need fresh blood and preferably an independent.
I fully agree with everything you said. It will never happen, but we need a third party with the monetary backing strong enough to support a serious run at the presidency.
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sorry James, but it was not against your statement, I'm an italian citizen and overthere we have so many mysteries that our government still has to explain to us since 50 years ago...what I want to say is that if you want to search the truth it can only be your truth and what you want to believe in, unless you don't have access to proofs and documents covered by secret, I can easily think with my mind that a government can give an easy access to terrorists to destroy the WTC in order to have a good excuse to declare two wars against afghanistan and iraq, so the control of strategic territories is a matter of fact, but....is this the truth?
Ok sorry for jumping on ya. I believe it to be a truth. I also believe the government did more than just allow it to happen. I believe all three buildings were actually demolished. I believe the plane that crashed (was shot down) over Pennsylvania was headed for Building 7 until the crew and or passengers took back control of the plane. Once that plane had to be shot down Building 7 still had to be brought down so a few minor fires were set inside along the windows to make it seem the building was going up in smoke. The Official Story in the press is that diesel fuel reservoirs for backup power generators at Guilliani's Emergency Command Center in the building exploded and the resulting fire brought the building down, even though there has never been a case on record of fire-induced collapse of large fire-protected steel buildings, and that there were only very small fires in progress when the building "collapsed." Not to mention that, as any one with the slightest technical background knows, diesel at normal pressure is non-explosive and barely flammable.

Any ways none of the official stories of that day make any damned sense.
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kyfisherman wrote:Hey it doesn't matter if your for or against this stuff, SEE HOW I SAID IT JUST STARTS TO STINK, I think this stuff has got to stop. People are arguing and smarting off already, there is no way you can bring up topics liek this without causing hard feelings therefore it is a BAD IDEA!
Are you saying we can't have an intellectual conversation without it coming to fistacuffs? I'm pretty sure were all civilized people here. I don't think it will bring any hard feelings towards any one at all. Seriously we're mostly all adults here so we should be able to discuss a sensitive subjects as adults.

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Rijkaard wrote:
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Rijkaard - I want to meet you out by the playground after school.
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playing basketball??? no way man, you're too damned tall, maybe soccer :mrgreen:


:lol: I've seen how you Italians play soccer. No thanks I don't have a chance in hell.
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linesider wrote:chess, level the playing field
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kyfisherman wrote:thank you rijkaard, fishing is a lot better than this crap whether it is true or not, still nothing you can do about it but fish!!
uh what part of 'off-topic lounge' do you not understand?

James30 has a right to post his moronic buttheaded conspiracy theories, even if i don't agree with them

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Great discussion I see nothing wrong with a healthy debate as long as it doesn't resort to name calling and threats . The goverment knew something was going on whether they knew the scale of it and where we will never know. Fact they had intel that Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed but did nothing to warn Pearl, Roosevelt wanted in the war and after WW1 the American people wanted nothing to do with it. Iyt was a great way to get in to the war and have the American people rally behind the cause. I don't think the US goverment had anything on this level to do with 911 . I do believe in the whole Axis of Evil these people hate us and want us dead. I do agree that it is time to stop sticking our nose in the affairs of others. Who cares if a country no one has heard of has a famine or civil war. If their was oil in Rwanda maybe we would have stopped the slaughter of millions. We have enough problems of our own without dealing with others problems. Make the car companies come out with alternitive energy for there cars and tell the Arabs to stick it sideways. Oh I forgot someone already came out with a carbotator/ engine that used around 1 gallon for 80 miles and that was bought by the oil companies and sits on a shelf due to their greed......

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bassZooKa wrote:[James30 has a right to post his moronic buttheaded conspiracy theories, even if i don't agree with them
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