PR Knot
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Phil
looking good knot there and that won't seem to break.
But my guide tip size is only 6 and it won't go through smooth.
My general set up is 50# braid (400 yard) + 100ft 40# Momoi diamond mono + 2ft 80# shock leader.
Braid + 40LB mono = uni2uni with my provision (but I am liking PR knot. My provision is something between uni2uni and PR knot...lol)
40LB momoi + 2ft 80# = uni2uni
The idea is I want to break off 40LB mono when I caught bottom...So I don't lose braid..
But sometimes braid breaks off... I may have to downgrade mono to 30 LB...
And thick uni2uni doesn't need to come thru guide.
looking good knot there and that won't seem to break.
But my guide tip size is only 6 and it won't go through smooth.
My general set up is 50# braid (400 yard) + 100ft 40# Momoi diamond mono + 2ft 80# shock leader.
Braid + 40LB mono = uni2uni with my provision (but I am liking PR knot. My provision is something between uni2uni and PR knot...lol)
40LB momoi + 2ft 80# = uni2uni
The idea is I want to break off 40LB mono when I caught bottom...So I don't lose braid..
But sometimes braid breaks off... I may have to downgrade mono to 30 LB...
And thick uni2uni doesn't need to come thru guide.
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I leave my leader long enough to cast it into the current
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So your knot doesn't touch guides neither...gdm phil wrote:I leave my leader long enough to cast it into the current
Yep, that is what I will do if braid break...no time to play origami...just uni2uni...lol
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If I don't pay attention it goes threw I'll show u Friday
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The issue has nothing to do with breaking. I never had a uni uni break.
It's just huge when using 80lb mono.
On the usual calstar and gator rods it doesn't matter but on a slow pitch jigging rod which is what blue has it gets stuck in the guides
I don't think any of u r using slow pitch light jigging rods unless I'm wrong.
That said I think ur crazy blue with braid to mono to flouro just asking for trouble too much tackle. Jigging is designed to pis away money
It's just huge when using 80lb mono.
On the usual calstar and gator rods it doesn't matter but on a slow pitch jigging rod which is what blue has it gets stuck in the guides
I don't think any of u r using slow pitch light jigging rods unless I'm wrong.
That said I think ur crazy blue with braid to mono to flouro just asking for trouble too much tackle. Jigging is designed to pis away money
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my avet which is on the shark rod has 100/100 on it now
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Re: PR Knot
I fish for mostly pompano as you guys know. 10# braid and 20# leader. I know this guy was doing the same thing and was tying uni 2 uni and he keep on losing fish. I think his issue was that he's tying the knot wrong. I show him the FG knot and now he's able to catch 15# jacks without much trouble.
I bend hooks easy with this setup as well. If using the same setup but with uni knot, then it would break at that point.
You guys are right that when you are up to 50# braid and 80# leader odds are your hooks will bend or give up first. It will probably be something else before that braid to mono/fluro know.
Blue, if your braid is hollow, try looking up slicing that would be your best bet, if not just tie the FG knot. Once you get the hang of it, you'll tie it in less than 30 seconds. Also if your braid break before your mono topshot... there's something wrong with the braid there. If it's the knot then it sounds right. Uni 2 uni only work well if the topshot/leader is of greater breaking strength.
I bend hooks easy with this setup as well. If using the same setup but with uni knot, then it would break at that point.
You guys are right that when you are up to 50# braid and 80# leader odds are your hooks will bend or give up first. It will probably be something else before that braid to mono/fluro know.
Blue, if your braid is hollow, try looking up slicing that would be your best bet, if not just tie the FG knot. Once you get the hang of it, you'll tie it in less than 30 seconds. Also if your braid break before your mono topshot... there's something wrong with the braid there. If it's the knot then it sounds right. Uni 2 uni only work well if the topshot/leader is of greater breaking strength.
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100lb leader doesn't go through those shark guides easily. U just use a short leader so don't gotta put it through a lotgdm phil wrote:my avet which is on the shark rod has 100/100 on it now
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That was some funny, scheisse, there by dik.STRIZ wrote:Dang Rich
Lay off the shatter. That chit potent as fak lmfao
All good
KB,
Yes, the FG knot!!! Get the knot assist 2.0 or EZ knotter. I will get a utility belt so you can have these cool toys ready and always with you as you are fishing!!
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Well said Jared.HJared wrote: That said I think ur crazy blue with braid to mono to flouro just asking for trouble too much tackle. Jigging is designed to pis away money
2ft leader is King teeth repellent...lol
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I tie it faster than setting up that tool... LOL
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I agree with whatever works and easy to tie. My set up is 50lb braid with 5ft of 40 or 60lb leader. Simple less failure.
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I'm pure uni but out here in da land of fruits and nuts we use a RED PHILLIPS knot. All the benefits if a uni2uni but much smaller. So easy to tie Jarred won't need his machine and blue will tie one in under an hour. Behold the magic
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbXaGYaaIo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbXaGYaaIo
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LolKingofthesea wrote:I'm pure uni but out here in da land of fruits and nuts we use a RED PHILLIPS knot. All the benefits if a uni2uni but much smaller. So easy to tie Jarred won't need his machine and blue will tie one in under an hour. Behold the magic
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbXaGYaaIo
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I like this red philip knot...less bulky than uni... I may revise a little for my purpose
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Oh, I didn't know but now I know this vid was for me...thanks bro. I still felt sorry my 20LB mono roll was cut mysteriously after you made the knot to braid at the bridge...Rare wrote:
KB,
Yes, the FG knot!!! Get the knot assist 2.0 or EZ knotter. I will get a utility belt so you can have these cool toys ready and always with you as you are fishing!!
I don't think you with utility belt alone will be enough... we also need the gaff to hold the other end of line...but gaff will be in use by GoPro user... and we will get a nasty yell by crew either we using for KG knot or someone else using for gopro...
So I am go back to PR knot...I had to find my bobbin that Jared told me throw away...
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Re: PR Knot
K. what kind of braid?kblue wrote:Phil
looking good knot there and that won't seem to break.
But my guide tip size is only 6 and it won't go through smooth.
My general set up is 50# braid (400 yard) + 100ft 40# Momoi diamond mono + 2ft 80# shock leader.
Braid + 40LB mono = uni2uni with my provision (but I am liking PR knot. My provision is something between uni2uni and PR knot...lol)
40LB momoi + 2ft 80# = uni2uni
The idea is I want to break off 40LB mono when I caught bottom...So I don't lose braid..
But sometimes braid breaks off... I may have to downgrade mono to 30 LB...
And thick uni2uni doesn't need to come thru guide.
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Re: PR Knot
Phil
Was it AJ? It fights all the way...
Pat
I think it was 8 strand PP... But I think my momoi mono is too strong... It may not be 40#...
I like momoi bc it is very soft and very strong...
Was it AJ? It fights all the way...
Pat
I think it was 8 strand PP... But I think my momoi mono is too strong... It may not be 40#...
I like momoi bc it is very soft and very strong...
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- HJared
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Re: PR Knot
They should make underwater drones so we can send the camera down 200 feet to see what's on
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They already do.
It's nothing more than an RC submarine with video capturing.
It's nothing more than an RC submarine with video capturing.
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Jarred told me wreck.....Jarred stop making up storiesgdm phil wrote:goliath
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Here's the recreational version that uses a go pro.
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There's an authority for you.Rare wrote:Jarred told me wreck.....Jarred stop making up stories
Those old queen slave owners that wrote our Constitution 200 years ago were brilliant.
"Every four years Americans get the President they deserve".
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Re: PR Knot
U 2 U = KISS Logic Keep It Simple Stupid!!STRIZ wrote:I'm with phill
No way in hell I would do a half day work lol to get a damn knot whilst others are happily fishing in the meantime.
BTW you can tie a u2u that will fit thru a size 8 tip no problem even with 60# leader.
Won a lil contest at Dania BP where the host "Berkley" said tie a knot and we stress it to breaking point and meassure the lb it took to break.
Was like 10 guys n gals and they all skunked against a 8 turn well tied u2u. Won a hat and a x-rap ppffffttt
Blue those bobbins are a great tool for rod building especially working with color transitions and or inlays. F that PR knot
Nelson cool find
Still have the hat lol
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Re: PR Knot
KB,
Dont let these haters tell you different. Cudman man does the PR knot in 40sec. and when the boat was rocking 4ft to 6ft on our yuri trip he did it in 1min. tops. I was one of these guys lol at him when he brought out that $100 bobbin but when he did it that fast i said nothing. I cant do the PR knot in 1min but that just me and the rest cant either.- that doesnt mean you cant.
Dont let these haters tell you different. Cudman man does the PR knot in 40sec. and when the boat was rocking 4ft to 6ft on our yuri trip he did it in 1min. tops. I was one of these guys lol at him when he brought out that $100 bobbin but when he did it that fast i said nothing. I cant do the PR knot in 1min but that just me and the rest cant either.- that doesnt mean you cant.
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In under a minute? Good thing for you I'm not a betting man. Can't wait to see the contraption blue builds for tying the damn knot. And if I know him Phil's "gonna need a bigger boat"Rare wrote:KB,- that doesnt mean you cant.
Those old queen slave owners that wrote our Constitution 200 years ago were brilliant.
"Every four years Americans get the President they deserve".
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Kingofthesea wrote:Joey is out making a buck today so I will fill in for him.......swordfish wrote:My humble opinion. I catch a LOT of fish. I have had the uni to uni fail me 0 times... 50 lbs braid / 80 lbs mono leader. -Swordfish
"You ain't chit. You catch lot fish? Only if you count pilchards n grunts and dey don't break any nots. Go steal Raul's stupid secret spot in Miami where deres no fish and stop talking about how great you are. Just sayin'
Nailed it KOTS! All in good fun. Life is too damn short!
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