Rare wrote:kblue wrote:I kinda discussed with rare on the way home about what I did differently from others because I know I did something different... But we concluded it was like using cloud in sky as a land mark.:
Too funny! I caught them at night in full moon, new moon and even showed them my moon and caught. The only difference is the permit found your bait. Now, if you dont get tagged on the next trip you will be beating yourself on why its not working or what am i doing different when other are catching. Something different was me telling you to put the bait out when you didnt think they hit at night and me telling you where to fish as you wanted to go far out.
fully agreed. And I removed the element of "no permit run at night" from my permit data set.
Full moon itself may not mean much but when it co-related to the other factor... the chance will increase exponentially...
For example,
Event A : full moon
Event B : shrimp run
Event C : permit run
The conditional probability of event C occurring becomes so high given that event A and B already occurred.
lasthope wrote:
This man looks cold
It was windy and cold...but I don't want to dig into sleeping bag... Now is the time to talk about 2nd permit...
I have to be ready to fight... When 2nd permit clicked the reel, I get up and run as soon as I heard... During the fight, I had to yell, shout, and scream many times to wake Rare up...
And then, he said where is the rod with sabiki rig? his eye was still half closed...I made sabiki rig with 2 x 6/0 and treble hook. But I moved it to the other side where all the rods were when a few groups of peoples passed by ( I don't want to give a chance to anyone.)...But that causes Rare not able to find the rod... He went through 10 rods but couldn't find it...until I said "look for black reel"...lol Finally, when he found it and dropped the sabiki rig, the hook was pulled out... Obviously, I had no chance even if he found the sabiki rod on time as the hook set wasn't good.. In fact, sabiki rig was something we did to keep our chance open given the fact that we had no bridge net.
To all new comers,
This may explain why these forum seniors don't want to do permit fishing with someone not familiar with bridge permit fishing, which requires superb quality of teamworks... perhaps worst time to learn or teach something... Due to the intensity of situation, people can not help but saying things straight like " I lost fish because of you doing something stupid (I tangled the net with line and hook one trip before...luckily we were able to land the fish by hand line pulling.)"... lol It is a fierce combat and undisciplined soldier has no chance to survive ( meaning getting away with a permit without being blamed. People get blamed for doing something stupid or even doing nothing... I heard so much of stories and dramas. BTW, they become "good" memories to talk about over and over)
I heard some famous Ronnie stories...lol
On the other side, our forum's party boat fishing like pulley ridge or one day charter may be much more forgiving as long as you know how to avoid and manage line tangles... If there were many participants, we could arrange to charter one full day party boat for forum... This may be cheaper than bridge fishing...good chance to catch nice fish. For one full day (24 hours) permit fishing, depending on the number of rods, you may need at least two dozen of crabs, which cost $3 x 24 = $72 and 2 dozens of fresh hoo that costs $1 x 24 = 24. So bait cost alone per person may come close to $100. Permit fishing is far worthy than $100 and hanging around with senior members is priceless... But full day charter will be cheaper than $100 assuming the boat provides baits... if Pat comes, we could hear his fascinating story of super cow fishing... However, boat fishing could be aggravating experience if senior members catching lots of fishes while you catch few or none....without a good amount of experience, your chance would be very low... I will talk about having a full day trip with our boatless charter master...