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 Post subject: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:10 pm 
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Guy runs over 2 people and flees to another state, basically a fugitive, and gets 2 years house arrest and 10 years probation for 2 MURDERS, fleeing, and a list of other things!
Here is the link:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/browar ... 9299.story

Now, some theif stole from old people and got 2 years in prison, here is the link:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-b ... 5622.story

I am not condoning what that woman did, AT ALL! But a DOUBLE MURDERER gets house arrest and probation, and that woman gets 2 years in prison for THEFT? What the living hell is going on with our Justice system....

I can tell you...it's called MONEY WILL BUY FREEDOM!!! The poor people are left out in the cold, while the rich get away with MURDER, LITERALLY!!!!!!

Does this piss anyone else off???? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:20 am 
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Bottom line, it was a plea deal. Both the victims families will never have to work again. In return for that, the victim's wives wrote letter's to the judge, requesting leniency. Simple as that. Is it Justice? No. Is it the best outcome under the circumstances? Probably. His mommy and daddy's lawyer's could have tied up a wrongfull death suit for another decade with appeals. What would the victim's families have done in the meantime? I know first hand what it's like to loose the ability to make a living through no fault of your own. It's never been about me, it's always been about my family. My court date was May 25th, about a week ago, until it got continued. However, that would have been 7 1/2 years from the date of the surgery that crippled me. If it weren't for SS disability and my Union pensions which include full healthcare, I would have lost everything I had. He's a typical Barrington rich kid, living off Mommy and Daddy's money. It's doubtfull he would have been able to pay if he lost. In the end this cost the people who were really responsible for raising such a douche bag. Truth is, nothing the judge said or did could bring back the victim's. So she ruled in favor of the plea deal based on the families wishes. I doubt spoiled little rich boy will abide by his sentence. If he break's it, he spend's the rest of it in jail. Most likely, traded off for pack's of smoke's as sombody's boss of the house. Now that would be justice.

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
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My court date was May 25th, about a week ago, until it got continued.



Damn, Pat! Sorry to hear that... Talking to you sometime back you were finally looking forward to this court date & now to see it dragging yet again! At least you got a tuna trip to look forward to... :toast:

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:13 am 
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Convicted hit-and-run driver gets 9 years in prison:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-b ... 2270.story

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:14 am 
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crashmister wrote:
Bottom line, it was a plea deal. Both the victims families will never have to work again. In return for that, the victim's wives wrote letter's to the judge, requesting leniency. Simple as that. Is it Justice? No. Is it the best outcome under the circumstances? Probably. His mommy and daddy's lawyer's could have tied up a wrongfull death suit for another decade with appeals. What would the victim's families have done in the meantime? I know first hand what it's like to loose the ability to make a living through no fault of your own. It's never been about me, it's always been about my family. My court date was May 25th, about a week ago, until it got continued. However, that would have been 7 1/2 years from the date of the surgery that crippled me. If it weren't for SS disability and my Union pensions which include full healthcare, I would have lost everything I had. He's a typical Barrington rich kid, living off Mommy and Daddy's money. It's doubtfull he would have been able to pay if he lost. In the end this cost the people who were really responsible for raising such a douche bag. Truth is, nothing the judge said or did could bring back the victim's. So she ruled in favor of the plea deal based on the families wishes. I doubt spoiled little rich boy will abide by his sentence. If he break's it, he spend's the rest of it in jail. Most likely, traded off for pack's of smoke's as sombody's boss of the house. Now that would be justice.

My point is, along with todays conviction, no matter how you turn things, MONEY BUYS ANYTHING!

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:03 pm 
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rare wrote:
crashmister wrote:
My court date was May 25th, about a week ago, until it got continued.



Damn, Pat! Sorry to hear that... Talking to you sometime back you were finally looking forward to this court date & now to see it dragging yet again! At least you got a tuna trip to look forward to... :toast:

Yeah thanks Nelson, my new date is in 6 months. It will be over 8 years from the date of surgery. And I may still loose. It's a jury trial so ya never know. Your right though, I am looking forward to Venice.

Justin; I disagree, It can't buy back the lives of the 2 guy's that were killed can it? Just like it can't buy relief for the pain and side effect's I deal with every single day of my life. Or the years I'll loose due to pain stress on my heart and nervous system. No my friend, Money can't buy anything. I think a more accurate analogy would be, everyone has a price to some degree. It suck's no doubt, but at least both families were set for life in the deal. The family of the victim in the second story you posted barely got funeral expenses.

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:57 pm 
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crashmister wrote:
rare wrote:
crashmister wrote:
My court date was May 25th, about a week ago, until it got continued.



Damn, Pat! Sorry to hear that... Talking to you sometime back you were finally looking forward to this court date & now to see it dragging yet again! At least you got a tuna trip to look forward to... :toast:

Yeah thanks Nelson, my new date is in 6 months. It will be over 8 years from the date of surgery. And I may still loose. It's a jury trial so ya never know. Your right though, I am looking forward to Venice.

Justin; I disagree, It can't buy back the lives of the 2 guy's that were killed can it? Just like it can't buy relief for the pain and side effect's I deal with every single day of my life. Or the years I'll loose due to pain stress on my heart and nervous system. No my friend, Money can't buy anything. I think a more accurate analogy would be, everyone has a price to some degree. It suck's no doubt, but at least both families were set for life in the deal. The family of the victim in the second story you posted barely got funeral expenses.
If money cant buy you everything, explain how some rich jackass gets a slap on the wrist for killing two people, but some poor idiot gets 9 years in prison for killing ONE person. Sorry to say Pat, but money does buy justice or lack of in this case!

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:14 pm 
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This case was weak at best with little evidence to accuse him. The victims made the sentence what it was by agreeing to it. I don't agree with it but understand the victims stance and taking the payoff to provide themselves with a future. There will never be a perfect legal system money and big time lawyers will normally determine the outcome of a case. Look at the NFL receiver that killed that guy driving DUI. The family took millions in exchange for a light sentence. Vengance in the form of a 7-10 year sentence wasn't going to replace the primary wage earner taken from the victims family.

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:42 pm 
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fishnfool73 wrote:
Look at the NFL receiver that killed that guy driving DUI. The family took millions in exchange for a light sentence.


If you are talking about Dante Stallworth hitting the guy on the MacArthur Causeway, yes he was over the limit, but he would have hit that guy if he was stone cold sober IMO. The guy ran out onto a 50 mph road, not anywhere near a crosswalk and at low-light conditions near dawn, he must have thought he was playing Frogger.

Can't compare it to this case IMO, the guy in Ft. Lauderdale was racing down a busy commerical street with pedestrians, hopped a curb and mowed them down on the sidewalk, then took off and tried to hide.

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 Post subject: Re: Money can buy ANYTHING!
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That is the one but one huge difference. Stallworth was behind the wheel of his car he was drunk and there were wheel witnesses. This Porche killer no one could put him behind the wheel but his buddy who did it to cop out on a felony dope charge. On this case reasonable shadow of a doubt would have been cast on any jury trial. I agree the guy is scum and needs to be drawn and quartered though.

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