whatup boatless forum it's been a while since i'm on here.

normally i'd try to find a health board or some chit to ask this question but this forum was always full of able-minded and intelligent people (well, some lol).

I've had 2 surgeries in the last 2 years on my left shoulder, the last one just this passed june. I am on the road to a 3rd..the pain just never goes away.

Both surgeries were done arthroscopically. At what point does an open shoulder surgery need to be redone?

I had a SLAP labral tear, bursitis the first surgery. 2nd surgery was a capsular shift, and to fix my retorn labrum and a small tear in my rotator cuff. yeah, my shoulders fcked up lol. I don't play contact sports anymore so that isn't the cause.

Anyone in my boat??

BTW R.I.P. Zebco. Had my fights with you on here but i'd never wish death upon anyone, especially someone as young as you were.

Football?

Going back for the 3rd time is stressful & sucks big time. Anyways, cant help you at all here, but maybe Pat might. Good luck and hope it all goes well. You are way too young for this but part of it if anyone play sports like you have.-

The first surgery was from football but the 2nd and possible 3rd are not

I'd say you're at that point. Scope's got it's limits. You may also want to consider a second opinion. Unless you're doing something to reinjure your sholder, or it's a planned series which is possible but not likely in your case, 3's a charm. The doctor either blew the diagnoses or the surgery or both. In your case it sounds like both. Good luck man.

Im hoping mine will get better on its own. Hurt it three months ago .Couldnt lift arm for a good while. Hurt ,couldnt sleep on that side, feels a little better. Medical costs are crazy only going if I have to. Im 52 maybee its getting to age where stuff doesnt heal fast anymore. Are you a younger guy with this problem? If so may as well get it fixed right.

About a year ago I had shoulder issues, I'm 62 now, never really ahd any previous injury related causes. I simply lost range of motion problems and could hardly raise my arm or roll over on that shoulder while sleeping without lots of pain.
I went to a specialist, (the Panthers ortho man), who did x-ray and mri said I had "frozen shoulder" and suggested physical therapy. After several sessions with little progress, doctor said no pain no gain, he injected with cortisone and said continue therapy. Near the end of therapy, (insurance running out), I had gained some range of motion but still not happy, the doctor said there is a couple options, anestisize you and do a full manipulation, surgery where I take it apart clean it out and put it back together, or keep exercising it and your body will likely heal itself in time.
1) Full manipulation, he said would be painful, might work, but would require more physical therapy
2) Surgery, I gaurantee you will have full range of motion but will be more painful and
require 3 to 6 months of physical therapy
3) Continue exercise, (the option I choose), seems to have worked out OK as I now have about 90% range of motion and no pain

Good luck

Thanks Pat. This is my 2nd opinion. The first surgery was done by a guy who I really didn't like. This doctor I like and I don't believe he blew either things. Maybe I started using my shoulder too soon after surgery, who knows. But I go for an arthogram (which effin suck) thursday and back to doc asap. I'm going to discuss the pros/cons with him of having it done open..