Epoxy

[bigreels16]

I started out with Flexcoat and couldn't get it to level for anything. So i switched to ProKote. Levels a lot better. But some spots on the rod doesn't get covered up all the way. Also i leave it on the dryer for 12hours and some spots still fill a little sticky. Any advice? Thanks Guys.

[Green Tide]

try 13 hrs
i really dont know
good luck

[team fin addicts]

are you sure your mix is correct? Also with the heat and humidity right now it will take a bit longer to fully cure. Also the flex coat may be old. Try using a heat gun or hair dryer on the epoxy while it is on the drying motor. This will help with the leveling process... Hope this helps you out.

[bigreels16]

Thanks Guys for the help. Like I said Iv'e fully built this rod twice and just got done with the 3rd time. I'm pretty sure i mixed it right. I do 3cc mix in till its clear. But I do poor the epoxy on to some tin foil. idk if thats the problem. Ive seen it on youtube (mudhole) pot life is a lot longer than in a mixing cup. Also could b the brushes i was using because i bought a pack of 30 from walmart from the craft section. The fan in my spare bed room is also running (very cool) in that room, So i'm sure that could b the problem. I have a achol burner with denatured alcohol in it for heat.

[CubanExpress]

strizile; it looks like he is mixing the epoxy in a graduated cup then pouring the mixed epoxy on to a sheet of aluminum.

bigreels; the only part where I see you could be having an issue is with using only 3cc's of epoxy. Is that 3 cc's total(1.5 cc + 1.5 cc)? or 3 cc's of resin, and 3 cc's of hardener? Either way; you should be using at the minimum 5 cc's of resin and 5 cc's of hardener. Anything less can incur problem's. But before you attempt to put epoxy on this rod for a fourth time. If you have plenty of epoxy to spare. Do me a favor. Put 5 cc's of resin and 5 cc's of hardener into a mixing cup, and whip it into a froth. Don't worry about bubbles; You're not applying it to the rod. Pour it onto a piece of aluminum foil and let it sit for 24 hours. Report back and let us know if the epoxy is hard or soft. Also check and see if the aluminum foil you're using is of a "non stick" variety.

[Get-em-wet]

prokote takes longer to completely dry. I was wondering this the 1st time I used it, thinking was it the bubble buster or something else I did. For Full Cure Prokote almost takes 24 hours to dry and then your normal 2 day window before fishing. I was impressed with prokote, but the drawback is the drying time. The prokote does not have a high-build or a low-build, it's a mixture of the 2, tough on coverage but levels well. Next time if you are in a hurry try using a heat gun or hair dryer to see if the epoxy will cure faster after it becomes tacky. I will continue to use prokote until I find a more negative draw back to the epoxy other then the slow curing time.

[CubanExpress]

I never had problems with a 3cc mix of each component. Max I have used per mix until know for finis cover was 4cc each. That was with Flexcoat and now with DII which I prefer.

Not saying there is a problem with mixing such a small amount. It's just that when you mix small amounts of epoxy like 4cc's of each part. The margin for mixing goes up. With larger amounts you have a buffer. Either part can be over or under the 1:1 ratio and the hardener will still have enough kick to get the epoxy to cure to it's max properties.

I coat rod's in one shot with 15 cc of resin and 15 cc of hardener for a 30 cc mixture of epoxy. After applying; In 2 hours the epoxy coat becomes tacky enough to where I am able to take it off the dryer and put it on a suspended rack. In 12 hours the epoxy coat is close to rock hard.

[Lomax aka ZEBCO]

Take it to TnR. Get it done right the 1st time.

[CubanExpress]

Tiger Woods get's his rod epoxied by pornstar's.

[bigreels16]

should i epoxy my rods in the garage sens its warm on there?

[Get-em-wet]

warmer temperatures equals faster set-up time...not exactly a rod builders best friend...usually you want to take your time when putting epoxy on and not just slather it on...

[CubanExpress]

Ok, to let you guys in on a little secret. The last thing you want to deal with is additional exposure time to epoxy. When working with it you should apply it to a rod as fast as possible. Epoxies like the ones used for coating rods should do all the work for you. They auto level and release bubbles on their own. The faster you can get epoxy on to a rod and cured; the better. Not only to speed up your production time. But also for your well being and any one else that is living with you. Epoxy is harsh. A toasty garage that's sealed off from living area's is a much better candidate for applying epoxy than a room inside your house that's temperature controlled at 75 degrees or less. Also everyone that's applying epoxy should be wearing disposable gloves and a respirator.

[Lomax aka ZEBCO]

This thread is an entertaining one to me, though I will not say why. I'm sure some will figure it out.

[bigreels16]

This thread is an entertaining one to me, though I will not say why. I'm sure some will figure it out.

Why's it entertaining?

[permitchaser]

This thread is an entertaining one to me, though I will not say why. I'm sure some will figure it out.

advises Zeb . i used FLEXCOAT equal parts with the plastic surranges you can't go wrong i hope i spell that right....

[permitchaser]

oh in 6 hours should b dry .to check if is ok check on the alum foil or plastic lil cup.you dont need more than 6 hours on da dryer....

thanks buddy Rare chiat sorry....

[CubanExpress]

Also everyone that's applying epoxy should be wearing disposable gloves and a respirator.

You mean I should go buy a full suite

PermaGloss is even more so. You really need good ventilation when working with that.

Yes, Ventilation is important. Epoxy or PermaGloss + Zero Ventilation = Suicide.