Dragon Scales

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bigboyjames11
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Dragon Scales

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Haven't posted in awhile. Build a king rod for my dad to use on a trip to Gulf Shores last month.
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Nice looking rod.

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Sweet, very nice workmanship!

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nice stripper can hold a coffee cup. lol.
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rays wrote:nice stripper can hold a coffee cup. lol.
And that just the 60mm. My lamiglas has a 70mm.
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what's the purpose of using that big?
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rays wrote:what's the purpose of using that big?
On the west coast of fl and in Alabama it the style. Everyone has them. I never owned o built one till 3-4yrs ago. The logic behind the the big guides is the line has less friction while unwinding off a large spinning reel. You try and match your stripper guide to the size of your spool. For my Penn 707 I use a 70mm guide. For my 705 I use a 60mm. You can use 6 or even 5 guides on a 9ft rod it spaced right. I don't use braid so throwing a cobia jig with 25-30lbs mono is a pain the arse with smaller guides, but it flys through the bigger ones. Also I use them to cast frozen cigar minnows with 17lbs mono and I can oit cast by 20+ yards the guys using custom rods with a 30mm stripper.
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bigboyjames11 wrote:
rays wrote: Also I use them to cast frozen cigar minnows with 17lbs mono and I can oit cast by 20+ yards the guys using custom rods with a 30mm stripper.
you can't compare the rods distance performance using 60mm stripper against a 3omm stripper based on what you saw.
you have to take into account the blank rating, the lure weight being thrown, location of the reel seat, location of the stripper etc, etc, everything should be constant. the only thing that would differ would be the guides.
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When your on a pier and 30 people are casting the same baits with the same line but the only different factor is the rod, you can put 2 and 2 together. It was explained to me like this, with spinning gear your line comes of the reel the same diameter as your spool so to put a size 25 or 30 stripper guide on a big spooled reel is actually adding friction and lessening your distance. When the 30 is the 3rd guide the line has had less to time rub and slow down, resulting is a longer cast. Now that being said, if I was using a 3000 sized reel I wouldn't use a 60mm guide. They also aren't real good with braid.
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Re: Dragon Scales

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what if your rod is rated to the exact rating where it really loads the weight you're throwing and
the other rods doesnt load as well?

actually the line comes off bigger than the spool, it is called the "balloon effect" of the line coming out, once the line hits the "spool lip", the spool lip makes the line balloon.

tell you what, i live in melbourne, florida, whenever you are around, give me a p.m. in advance and then i will give you my phone number then we can experiment, i have blanks that we can use, bring your big reel and big guides and we can compare, i have a field that has measurements of upto 120yards so we can cast on that when we test them.

rather than listening and believing to old wives tale, let us prove it and experiment.
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just use the new microwave guides and be done with it lol
http://www.americantackle.us/microwave_guides.html

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James, I still like the picture of Dad fishing, and hope he makes return trips with you in the future
Bill

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