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Church shooting in Texas

Postby Ice » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:48 pm

Wonder if was those leftist antifa nutjobs...you know...the ones who said "we wont stop til trump and pence are gone" yeah, them...anyone want to bet???

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/05/mass-shooting-reported-at-texas-sutherland-springs-church.html
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby kblue » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:44 am

another blame that goes to Trump...
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Postby Thelonereeler » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:12 pm

I'd put my money on what this guy says, they've been doing it all along...
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby kblue » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:29 pm

lol :drunk:
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Rare » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:24 am

kblue wrote:lol :drunk:


I will drink witj you on this one, blue! Make it a double :drunk: :drunk:
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Miami_Chris » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:00 pm

So is it time to modify some gun laws or what? This poop is getting out of control.
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Postby fishnfool73 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:47 pm

Miami_Chris wrote:So is it time to modify some gun laws or what? This poop is getting out of control.


Yes and we should also make heroine and cocaine illegal :roll: Mental health care is horid in this country since Reagan closed the mental asylums.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Rare » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:36 pm

Miami_Chris wrote:So is it time to modify some gun laws or what? This poop is getting out of control.


What modification do you think needs to be tweak in the law? Or what do you see that can be done different?
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Miami_Chris » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:25 pm

Guns will never be illegal in the United States, but they really should limit the amount you can own and limit the power of firearms available to the public. Want to hunt? Buy bolt action rifles. Want a gun for home defense, buy a handgun or shotgun. Rifles that are easily modified and capable of spraying crazy amounts of rounds should not be available to the public. They also need to keep track on the amount of magazines one person is buying. How about drug tests before buying a gun? How about a mandatory psych exam before buying a gun?

People with mental health issues are getting their hands on high power fire arms because they are so widely available. That poop needs to change or we’re just going to keep seeing these crazy shootings happen.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Rare » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:42 pm

This turd had red flags all over...another one that slipped through the system and unfortunately this was the outcome.


The US Air Force acknowledged it did not relay information about Kelley's court martial conviction for domestic assault to civilian law enforcement, something that could have prevented him from purchasing the firearms used in the shooting. The Air Force and Department of Defense are investigating how records of his domestic violence conviction were handled.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby kblue » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:35 pm

It is our freedom to not give a damn...


Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.
They were far enough away from the event and had survived, leading them to feel invulnerable and no longer scared.
Until you've experienced a "near miss," it's easy for your mind to compartmentalize mass shootings that you hear about -- thinking they will never affect you.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Rare » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:18 am

Again, the system was in place to stop him. The Air force failed to report. That would have or might have stopped him from buying a gun.
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Postby STRIZ » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:54 am

Rare wrote:Again, the system was in place to stop him. The Air force failed to report. That would have or might have stopped him from buying a gun.


Legally yeah but we all know that if someone wants to do BS they will find a way. A nutcase is a nutcase cuz he a nutcase - nothing you can do right there.
Guncontrol will not work. Just cant just because there is always a way. Look at Fast n Furios. In the end the bad guy who knows will get a gun illegal and wind up with a goverment supplied weapon.
Psych Exam n stuff all nice and dandy and a way to go but who wants to be evaluated and then stuffed in a drawer for the right or wrong reasons. Also how control things if someone passes all checks and develops some mental thing at a later point.

BTW a snap can happen to the most healthy when conditions are met that go bejond what one can take. So many possabilities that IMO it is most difficult to find a way to allow or disallow purchase and or license. Dont know but it seems nearly impossible to me.

Anyway it is the finger on the trigger not the gun itself. Could be a toothpick for all I know.
Anyway may god have mercy with the poor souls harmed.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Rare » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:45 am

Ron, correct. I didnt want to beat the dead horse over amd over. Some good key points have been brought up in this conversation. It's going to take a little bit of everything to get it down right or at leaat bring it down.

We also have to understand the impact social media and everybody with a camera phone brings to this as well. These events were most likely out there all the time. Now, a simple cell phone can be use broadcast to millions and millions of people in a instance and make a greater impact.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby STRIZ » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:57 am

Spot on Brah
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Thelonereeler » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:55 am

Google "Operation Northwoods", the criminals in DC could care less about the people. Go ahead and think otherwise.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby STRIZ » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:22 am

Thelonereeler wrote:Google "Operation Northwoods", the criminals in DC could care less about the people. Go ahead and think otherwise.



Who the F cares
Look anywhere any country and from 2000 years ago til today. Think anything would change?

No way - whoever comes to power wants to have more - it is a human nature thing - thats a fact.
All you can do is be the best you can be and at least know that you are doing the right thing but do not forget that even then your own interpretation of yourself is just that - a inrerpretation or point of view. Dang and the circle has 360 degrees to choose from LOL
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby kblue » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:40 am

Well... in opinion, our younger generation may not care about the actual gun but gaming computers... they can shoot guns as much they want in video games.
It is hard to shoot actual gun unless shooting range... but they can shoot it any time in here...

I saw my friend's kid playing a video game...And I played once and was addicted right away...
Gun sound is real in this game. I watch CNN video showing Las Vegas shooting, I recognized AK sound right away...
This particular game called battlegrounds taking over the whole world.... It came out this year and about 20 million copies sold last a few month...It spreads




BTW, the spec of gaming computer affects the result of the game... So it is like a weapon system... They need top sound system and top video graphic...
It could cost $1500 ~ $10,000...


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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby crashmister » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:49 pm

Get used to it boys and girls. When 26 children being murdered in school didn’t change gun laws, nothing ever will.

I completely agree gun laws will not stop anything at this point. Our society is so saturated with high capacity weapons, you could never recover them.

I believe this will eventually become a financial responsiblity issue. They won’t pass gun laws, they’ll pass insurance laws that say you’re required to insure the potential liability you hold in the destructive power of your firearm.

People obviously don’t matter so let’s make it about money. Other countries are already looking at this as public health issue. Do the reading. Find out how many Vegas survivors will be on welfare for the rest of their lives. Betting a few of the Texas survivors will as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26822013/
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Thelonereeler » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:26 pm

STRIZ wrote:
Thelonereeler wrote:Google "Operation Northwoods", the criminals in DC could care less about the people. Go ahead and think otherwise.



Who the F cares
Look anywhere any country and from 2000 years ago til today. Think anything would change?

No way - whoever comes to power wants to have more - it is a human nature thing - thats a fact.
All you can do is be the best you can be and at least know that you are doing the right thing but do not forget that even then your own interpretation of yourself is just that - a inrerpretation or point of view. Dang and the circle has 360 degrees to choose from LOL

The only way they get power is through submission. When the people know better than to fall for the myth of authority, they can fight it off every time.
I've always resented the fact that I feel caged by regulations.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby STRIZ » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:28 pm

Thelonereeler wrote:
STRIZ wrote:
Thelonereeler wrote:Google "Operation Northwoods", the criminals in DC could care less about the people. Go ahead and think otherwise.



Who the F cares
Look anywhere any country and from 2000 years ago til today. Think anything would change?

No way - whoever comes to power wants to have more - it is a human nature thing - thats a fact.
All you can do is be the best you can be and at least know that you are doing the right thing but do not forget that even then your own interpretation of yourself is just that - a inrerpretation or point of view. Dang and the circle has 360 degrees to choose from LOL

The only way they get power is through submission. When the people know better than to fall for the myth of authority, they can fight it off every time.
I've always resented the fact that I feel caged by regulations.
If you're not free, you're a slave.
True heroes will fight for true freedom, not BS wars over made up ghosts.


Said the rebel who turned dictator down the road

History prooves it. People always new better. Then they chopped the Heads off the Kings. 10 years later same old same old.

The individual has to do the right thing for one self but dont expect change. Is all hot air. Be good with yourself and spend your eartly time the best you can. Treat others the way you would like to be treated and all is good. At least on a Personal universe Level.
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Re: Church shooting in Texas

Postby Rare » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:35 pm

Thelonereeler wrote:
The only way they get power is through submission. When the people know better than to fall for the myth of authority, they can fight it off every time.
I've always resented the fact that I feel caged by regulations.
If you're not free, you're a slave.
True heroes will fight for true freedom, not BS wars over made up ghosts.


Are you the true hero the world has been waiting for? All I see is words with no action... Is there anything you have done not to feel as if youre caged by "the man?" What regulations makes you feel like if you are caged? Can you move somewhere else not to feel like that? Im just trying to understand it all. Better yet....

What changes you think "we" as a nation as "one" can do and put a stop these nut jobs? Is there anything you can do now to get the ball rolling with any action?
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