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sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:40 am
by chris21
I was sharking at john lloyd park on saturday and had some confusing moments, the first shark bait I took out was a whole spanish mackerel, within 5 minutes the clicker went screaming for a good 10 seconds, when I got to the rod it had stopped running, after reeling it in only the head was left with the hook in it

after that I took a large porgy carcass and placed it out, after about 10 minutes the clicker went off again but only for about 5 seconds then stopped. After reeling in the bait I noticed the bait was completely unscathed, neither was the wire bent or damaged, what could have caused this situations and is there a way to improve? after that I placed a second hook on the rig but nothing else hit all day, would circle hooks work better? thanks everyone!!

Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:36 pm
by diggin4grouper
sounds like you had a visit from flipper !!!
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:53 pm
by opiato
Any time I use fish for bait, anything from small bait fish to larger shark bait, I like to hook them through the tail. Most predators ambush from behind, so they almost always hit the tail first. I tried the double hook set up too for shark fishing after a few times of experiencing the same problem: having my bait's heads bit off and left on the hook. I tried this for a few trips, but never got a hit. I've heard shark's can be hook shy, and that's what it seems to me after experimenting with that. So I went back to one hook, and tried hooking through the bait's tail instead. Offset circle hook, 10/0. The absolute sharpest you can find, or sharpen it yourself. I cut down on hardware too, and ditched the snap swivel. I started getting alot more hits after cutting down to a much more natural presentation. Now listen, I have yet to actually land a shark. Last couple trips, I've had some good hook ups, but malfunctions with some of my knots. Just so you're aware that I'm no expert, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but this is what I've noticed so far through my experiences. Also, I'm only targeting medium sharks, using heavy spinning gear. And I don't have a kayak, so I use smaller baits cast as far as I can get them on an 11' heavy surf rod. Good luck!
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:51 pm
by diggin4grouper
opiato
what knots are you useing ?
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:34 pm
by opiato
Uniknot to the cable leader, but the one that usually fails me is the sebile knot connecting my 50lb braid to 80lb mono shock leader. I like that knot alot cuz it casts smooth. Think its failing tho cuz im just not makin it solid enough. What I just started doing is finding some kind of structure to tie the end of my line around and pull tight to give the rig a good test before putting it to work. Just started that last trip but didnt hook anything to really test its effectiveness.
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:10 pm
by tiger101
this is so funny i have the same problem i fish the north side jetty get alot of hits but cant seem to get them in had some big hits but no luck
using #19 wire size 14 j hooks with a stinger
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:39 pm
by chris21
tiger101 wrote:this is so funny i have the same problem i fish the north side jetty get alot of hits but cant seem to get them in had some big hits but no luck
using #19 wire size 14 j hooks with a stinger
you fish the north Port Everglades jetty? what kind of sharks are usually found? Ive heard reports of good sized lemon sharks.
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:29 pm
by tiger101
lots of black tips and spinners 150 to 300 lbs
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:12 pm
by diggin4grouper
opiato
your cable is cutting the mono when it tightens up ...
use a swivel and crimp it on the cable and you will fair a lot better ..
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:20 pm
by fishnfool73
Blacktips and spinners to 300 lbs I would pay to see that . As pointed out either crimp your rigs or use a swivel between the wire/cable and line. I have landed plenty of small to midsize sharps ie spinners/blacktips/lemons using heavy mono 125 - 150 lb and a large circle hook.
Re: sharking dilemma
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:28 am
by tiger101
never had that much luck using circle hooks for sharks and if i did it was a pain in the ass getting the hook out then again when it comes to shark fishing everybody has there beliefs and techniques